Symposium - 2025 - Promises of Sovereignty

Against Judicial Generalists

Matthew L.M. Fletcher *

There is something irritatingly wrong with Indian law practice at the Supreme Court.

Oral argument at the Supreme Court is a bitterly unpleasant affair for Indigenous people and tribal advocates for a lengthy variety of reasons. It is canonical that tribal advocates must attempt to avoid Supreme Court review; the strategic thinking is that the Court is the last place an Indian tribe would ever want to be. 1 See Louis F. Claiborne, The Trend of Supreme Court Decisions in Indian Cases, 22 Am. Indian L. Rev. 585, 599 (1997) (advising lawyers representing Tribes to avoid bringing their cases before the Supreme Court where possible). No Indigenous person has argued a case before the Supreme Court since 2001, approaching a quarter century. 2 James Anaya was the last Indigenous person to argue a case in the US Supreme Court. See Nevada v. Hicks, 533 U.S. 353, 354 (2001); Matthew Fletcher, AILC: The First 13 Symposium, Turtle Talk (Mar. 12, 2012), https://turtletalk.blog/2012/03/13/ailc-the-first-13-symposium-this-friday/. Only a tiny handful of Indigenous people have ever clerked for a Supreme Court justice. 3 See Justin Wingerter, Chickasaw Woman to Become First Native American to Clerk for Supreme Court Justice, The Oklahoman (updated Apr. 17, 2018, 9:30 AM CT), https://perma.cc/D9WB-SNCY (reporting that Tobi Young, who clerked for Justice Neil Gorsuch starting in 2018, was the first Native American tribal member to serve as a U.S. Supreme Court clerk). Some justices overtly denigrate, often unintentionally, tribal interests because of ignorance of tribal nations and their citizens. The precedents over which the parties argue are soaked in a nasty history of bigotry and misrepresentation. 4 See generally Robert A. Williams, Jr., The Algebra of Federal Indian Law: The Hard Trail of Decolonizing and Americanizing the White Mans Indian Jurisprudence, 1986 Wis. L. Rev. 219 (1986) (arguing that the Supreme Court’s Indian law jurisprudence is riddled with racism). The Department of Justice, legally owing a duty of protection (known metaphorically as a trust responsibility) to tribal nations and individual Indians, flatly declines to respect its duties. 5 See generally Daniel I.S J. Rey-Bear & Matthew L.M. Fletcher, We Need Protection from Our Protectors: The Nature, Issues, and Future of the Federal Trust Responsibility to Indians, 6 Mich. J. Envt. & Admin. L. 397 (2017) (arguing that the Department of Justice fails miserably in its trust duties to Indian tribes and individual Indians). There has never been a tribal citizen with a political appointment in the Justice Department, and the Office of the Solicitor General has never even hired a tribal citizen to serve in a full-time attorney position. The Court is far more likely to grant review in cases where a tribal interest won below than when an anti-tribal interest prevailed. 6 See generally Matthew L.M. Fletcher, Factbound and Splitless: The Certiorari Process as Barrier to Justice for Indian Tribes, 51 Ariz. L. Rev. 933 (2009) (showing that the Court’s certiorari stage decisions discriminate against tribal interests). Respected jurists who have decided dozens of Indian law cases demonstrate they have learned nothing at all from those past cases by continuing to ask basic questions with simple answers. 7 Justice Alito’s question about the origins of the default interpretative rules of federal Indian law is a good example. See Matthew L.M. Fletcher, A Bit More on the Indian Canon Talk in the Ysleta Argument, Turtle Talk (Feb. 23, 2022), https://perma.cc/C2HL-4V3C. Every argument seems to be an exercise in theorizing any and every plausible reason to rule against tribal interests. 8 See, e.g., Matthew Fletcher, Contract and (Tribal) Jurisdiction, Yale L.J. F., Apr. 11, 2016, at 1, 5 (describing how Justice Kennedy entertained a theory with no precedent that would strip all tribal courts of jurisdiction over all nonmembers). Justices with reputations for sober, staid images seemingly lose their tempers when tribal advocates make a powerful point. 9 Justice Kennedy’s aggressive interrogation of the tribal counsel in Dollar General Corp. v. Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians, 579 U.S. 545 (2016), was, in my personal opinion as a witness to the argument, both shocking and unwarranted. Cf. Matthew L.M. Fletcher, Reflections on the Dollar General Argument, Turtle Talk (Dec. 8, 2015), https://perma.cc/9C9S-J69F . Even off-the-cuff, seemingly improvised anti-tribal theories raised by no party at any stage of the litigation suddenly become decision rules. 10 See, e.g., City of Sherrill v. Oneida Indian Nation, 544 U.S. 197, 214 n.8 (2005) (adopting equitable defenses theory not argued or briefed by the parties at any stage of litigation). Textualist, originalist judges suddenly point to post-enactment statements of federal agency bureaucrats as the controlling interpretation. 11 See, e.g., Carcieri v. Salazar, 555 U.S. 379, 390 (2009) (quoting Letter from John Collier, Commissioner of Indian Affairs, to Superintendents (Mar. 7, 1936) in an opinion authored by Justice Thomas). Worst of all (although there is more), outcomes are seemingly random.

Weirdly, in the past decade or so, tribal interests have prevailed in a majority of the cases before the Supreme Court. Some of the most consequential cases have come down in the last decade, all of them favoring tribal interests. 12 See, e.g., Haaland v. Brackeen, 143 S. Ct. 1609, 1623 (2023) (affirming the constitutionality of the Indian Child Welfare Act); McGirt v. Oklahoma, 140 S. Ct. 2452, 2459 (2020) (affirming the reservation boundaries of the Muscogee (Creek) Nation); Michigan v. Bay Mills Indian Community, 572 U.S. 782, 785 (2014) (affirming tribal sovereign immunity). Ostensibly, the Roberts Court is a textualist court, 13 See Aaron-Andrew P. Bruhl, Supreme Court Litigators in the Age of Textualism, 76 Fla. L.Rev. 59, 60 (2024). which benefits tribal interests when they have treaty language or statutory language backing up their positions. Even so, the Court is known to deviate from the text and impose its own policy preferences on Indian country. 14 See, e.g., Oklahoma v. Castro-Huerta, 142 S. Ct. 2486, 2491 (2022) (affirming state criminal jurisdiction in Indian country in the absence of congressional authorization).

Still, flush with Trump-appointed justices, Clarence Thomas, and Samuel Alito, the Court has signaled that no precedent is safe. The foundational principles of federal Indian law, many of which predate the existence of the United States, are open to question and potential reversal. 15 Compare, e.g., Haaland, 143 S. Ct. at 1631 (noting that two hundred years or so of Supreme Court precedents have recognized federal plenary power in Indian affairs), with, e.g., id. at 1662-89 (Thomas, J., dissenting) (arguing those precedents are wrong). Nothing is sacred. Even so, a bad decision usually isn’t the end of the world. The Court’s collective lack of expertise in federal Indian law is nothing compared to its lack of expertise in how its decisions affect real people on the ground in Indian country, or even how federal bureaucrats will deal with the new decisions. Ironically, as a result, even the Court’s plainest rejections of tribal interests often mean nothing as tribal advocates easily find a way around the Court’s shallow reasoning. 16 See, e.g., Frank Pommersheim, Tribal Justice: Twenty-Five Years as a Tribal Appellate Justice 77–80 (2016) (describing the coda of Plains Commerce Bank v. Long Family Land & Cattle Co., 554 U.S. 316 (2008), where the Indian-owned business lawyered its way to victory after what appeared to be a major loss for tribal interests). Perhaps more shockingly, tribal advocates can simply ask and receive from Congress a statutory “fix” to a bad decision. 17 See, e.g., Act of Nov. 5, 1990, Pub. L. No. 101–511, § 8077(b)-(c), 104 Stat. 1856, 1892-93 (codified as amended at 25 U.S.C. § 1301(2)) (overruling Duro v. Reina, 495 U.S. 676 (1990), by giving Indian tribes the power to “exercise criminal jurisdiction over all Indians,” even those from other tribes). I once wrote, only partly in jest, that for tribal nations, Supreme Court cases are like reality television. 18 Matthew L.M. Fletcher, Indian Law Reality Television, or How to Stop Worrying When Losing in the Supreme Court, Fed. Law., Mar./Apr. 2020, at 47. It can be exhilarating or painful to watch, but very little of what happens means much to real people.

This essay offers yet another proposal for Supreme Court reform. My proposal is rooted in a preference for subject matter expertise in judging. Drawing from arbitration practice, I propose a system in which the parties to federal court litigation — from federal district court all the way to the Supreme Court — negotiate and choose judges from a pool of subject matter experts. The pool would consist of Article III judges who develop subject matter expertise in a given field, say, intellectual property or federal Indian law, and who are available to hear cases over which they are experts, not generalists. Although seemingly radical, there are already formal and informal models for this structure, namely the Federal Circuit, the D.C. Circuit, state courts of criminal appeals, tribal courts, and of course arbitration itself.

I. Federal Indian Law and Policy 101

Judges with subject matter expertise in federal Indian law are legion. There are more that 400 tribal courts in the United States. 19 Tribal and CFR Courts, U.S. Dept of the Interior, Bureau of Indian Affs., https://perma.cc/ED3M-5UHS (archived May 25, 2025). Tribal judicial powers derive from the sovereignty of tribal nations and their citizens. 20 .Restatement of the Law of American Indians § 13 (Am. L. Inst. 2024). Since the 1970s, Congress has supported tribal self-determination over federal bureaucratic control over Indian country governance. 21 .Stephen L. Pevar, The Rights of Indians and Tribes 13-17 (5th ed. 2024). Tribal nations may now establish court systems with federal appropriations and their own funds. 22 Federal funding is managed through federal self-determination acts. See 25 U.S.C. § 5321.

In this era of tribal self-determination, tribal judges have become both more professionalized and more Indigenous. I have sat as an appellate judge (and occasional pro tem trial level judge) for at least seventeen different tribal courts all over the country. I am currently appointed to a dozen tribal appellate courts. 23 A mostly complete listing of tribal court opinions I have written is on Turtle Talk: Tribal Court Opinions, Turtle Talk, https://perma.cc/A7Z5-UL2Z (archived May 25, 2025). I have worked with dozens of tribal judges, mostly in actual appellate judging work but also in tribal court development work. The large majority of the appellate judges I have worked with are licensed attorneys. A small number are not attorneys, but instead are tribal citizens with some legal experience, respected elders in the community, and/or have considerable traditional knowledge. Loosely speaking, something more than half of the judges I work with are tribal citizens of a federally-recognized tribe but not the tribe for which we work. We call this class of people nonmember Indians. About a quarter are tribal citizens, citizens of the tribe in which we are working. The remainder are non-Indians. All of the nonmember judges (Indian and non-Indian) are licensed attorneys. No tribe would retain a nonmember, non-lawyer to serve as a judge. Tribal appellate judges are more likely to be lawyers. Lawyers doing appellate work are mobile, part-time hired guns, who decide cases on the papers, and do not really need to be immersed in the community in the way trial judges, who decide cases in face-to-face interactions, often must be. Non-lawyers do take missteps as judges, even after extensive training; luckily, the tribal appellate courts clean up those errors so the tribal judiciary can move forward in a good way.

Circumstances for tribal nations and tribal justice systems have changed since the years before I began to serve as a tribal judge just after the turn of the twenty-first century. Prior to the 1980s, the effective beginning of the self-determination era, tribal judges were almost exclusively tribal members, with relatively few of these judges owning the credential of a law degree or state bar licensure. 24 Cf. Donald L. Burnett, Jr., An Historical Analysis of the 1968 Indian Civil Rights Act, 9 Harv. J. on Legis. 557, 579, 581 (1972) (noting that tribal courts before the 1970s routinely prohibited the participation of professional attorneys and functioned with “untrained judges”). The cornerstone of tribal self-determination, Public Law 638, enables tribal nations to accept federal funding directly to develop tribal institutions, including tribal justice systems. 25 25 U.S.C. § 5301. With additional funding, tribes could retain licensed attorneys to serve at least some of the judicial positions at the trial and appellate level.

Another federal statute, the Indian Civil Rights Act (ICRA) of 1968, 26 25 U.S.C. §§ 1301-1304. coupled with a Supreme Court decision interpreting ICRA, 27 Santa Clara Pueblo v. Martinez, 436 U.S. 49 (1978). created additional and enormous pressure on tribal nations to develop justice systems. ICRA includes the “Indian Bill of Rights,” which obligates tribal nations to comply with most federal constitutional rights contained in the Bill of Rights. The 1978 decision, Santa Clara Pueblo v. Martinez, 28 436 U.S. 49 (1978). held that the sole forums for enforcing the Indian Bill of Rights are tribal justice and political systems. 29 Id. at 65. After Martinez, ICRA lawsuits against tribal governments must be brought in tribal courts. Martinez also held that tribal nations are immune from suit in federal and state courts, further funneling virtually all private lawsuits against tribal governments to tribal courts. 30 Id. at 58-59. For the first few decades after that paradigm shift, tribal courts were often not ready to handle these new cases. Non-lawyer judges struggled with complex civil rights, criminal prosecutions, and commercial litigation, both in terms of procedure and substantive law. Interestingly, these non-lawyer judges could still be effective. Tribal judges could be trained to handle these difficult cases. Also, tribal courts could retain professional court staff, including judicial clerks, that advised non-lawyer judges on the law and assisted in drafting opinions (I did work like this for a tribe for a few years). In my experience, these non-lawyer judges possessed a great strength, knowledge of the local community and the tribe’s culture and traditions.

Greater financial resources and legal and political pressures have led the large majority of tribal nations to professionalize, at least in part, their judiciaries. More recently, Congress enabled tribes to exercise enhanced prosecutorial and criminal sentencing authority, even over non-Indians, where tribes guarantee federal-style standards, most notably, requiring tribes to provide law-trained judges when prosecuting non-Indians 31 25 U.S.C. §§ 1302, 1304. (the law-trained judges requirement alone ensures greater procedural protection than non-Indians receive in federal and state courts). But many tribal courts retained their non-lawyer, tribal citizen judges for many purposes. Licensed attorneys ensure compliance with tribal constitutional and statutory law (and ICRA), but non-lawyer judges can ensure a connection to tribal culture. With this mix of lawyers and non-lawyers, tribal citizens and nonmembers, tribal justice systems have creatively developed ways to incorporate tribal cultures into judicial work without violating federal legal standards.

Every tribal judge, lawyer or not, is a subject matter expert on Indian law. Law-trained tribal judges either took Federal Indian Law in law school or have picked it up while practicing in the field. Tribes usually do not hire judges with little or no experience in Indian law (although tribes do hire former state or federal court judges with extensive judicial experience, giving them room to learn Indian law on the go). Even non-lawyer judges should be considered experts in Indian law; after all, they know reservation life, which is dominated by tribal laws and a federal Indian law overlay.

Here is a sampling of the judiciaries with which I have experience. Hopefully, this sample covers a good variety of tribal justice systems, most especially in the varying credentials that tribal judges possess.

A. Pokagon Band of Potawatomi Indians 32 See Dbakwnëgéwgëmëk, Pokagon Band of Potawatomi Indians, https://perma.cc/YF7E-9D6M (archived May 25, 2025).

Pokagon Band now is a relatively financially secure tribal nation. The tribal council constituted the court in the early 2000s, before the tribe enjoyed that financial security. The first Chief Judge was (and is) Michael Petoskey, 33 See Members of the Judiciary, Pokagon Band of Potawatomi Indians, https://perma.cc/2WAR-4N6B (archived May 25, 2025). a nonmember Indian who was also the first Chief Judge for four other tribes in Michigan. The first associate tribal judge was (and is) David Peterson, a non-Indian person who served as a Michigan state court judge for many years. There have been four appellate judges, Robert Anderson, Angela Riley, Jill Tompkins, and myself, all of whom are nonmember Indians and all of whom served as law professors at Washington, UCLA, Colorado, and Michigan State/Michigan respectively during their tenures. 34 Id. Pokagon is a small tribe with a relatively small land base, but the trial court is very busy. 35 See Court Opinions, Pokagon Band of Potawatomi Indians, https://perma.cc/RH3L-GHVC (archived May 25, 2025). The appellate court, however, has only heard three or four appeals in nearly a quarter century. 36 Id. Pokagon, led by Judge Petoskey, has developed a nationally-respected Peacemaking program housed within the tribal court building that handles special cases diverted from the adversarial tribal court. 37 See Native Justice, Pokagon Band of Potawatomi Indians, https://perma.cc/738K-BWXW (archived May 25, 2025).

B. Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa Indians 38 The Turtle Mountain tribal court does not appear to have a website currently. See generally Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa, https://perma.cc/CL4V-4VGY (archived May 25, 2025).

Turtle Mountain is a very large, under-resourced tribal nation in rural North Dakota. My experience with this tribe is limited to 2005 and 2006. Then, there were four trial level judges, one of whom (Shirley Cain) was a licensed attorney who was also a nonmember Indian. The other judges were non-lawyers but were all tribal citizens. The tribal appellate court consisted of a pool of six to eight licensed attorneys, at least three of whom were tribal citizens—Monique Vondall-Rieke, Karrie Azure-Elliott, and Jerilyn DeCoteau. The remainder included a mix of nonmember lawyers (including myself) and one non-Indian lawyer (who had argued an important Indian law case before U.S. Supreme Court). Turtle Mountain’s trial court was incredibly busy. The appellate court, at times, could also be very busy. In the two years I served as an appellate judge there, I heard about a half-dozen cases. 39 E.g., Mathiason v. Gate City Bank, 2005 Turtle Mt. App. LEXIS 2 (Turtle Mountain Tribal Ct. App. Feb. 1, 2005); Monette v. Schlenvogt, 2005 Turtle Mt. App. LEXIS 1 (Turtle Mountain Tribal Ct. App. Mar. 31, 2005); Turtle Mountain Jud. Bd. v. Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa Indians, TMAC No. 04-007 (Turtle Mountain Tribal Ct. App. 2005), https://perma.cc/LT4R-EHXH; Malaterre v. Est. of St. Claire, TMAC No. 05-007 (Turtle Mountain Tribal Ct. App. 2005), https://perma.cc/ZX44-XHWU.

C. Rincon Band of Luiseño Indians 40 See Rincons Courts, Rincon Band of Luiseño Indians, https://perma.cc/Z9UE-F82K (archived May 25, 2025).

Rincon Band is a very small, highly resourced tribal nation in rural San Diego County, California. Until recent years, the tribe relied upon an intertribal court system, the Intertribal Court of Southern California, to handle its entire judicial function. 41 See Intertribal Court of Southern California, https://perma.cc/4XBD-YGVK (archived May 25, 2025). That court system currently maintains a roster of experienced lawyers, who are nonmember Indians for the most part. 42 See Judges, Intertribal Court of Southern California, https://perma.cc/M63Q-WU23 (archived May 25, 2025). However, the tribe chose to develop a lengthy roster of tribal judges for its own court system, primarily handling appellate cases involving some aspect of tribal sovereignty. 43 See Justices of the Court of Appeals, Rincon Band of Luiseño Indians, https://perma.cc/NAA4-PXBD (archived May 25, 2025). This roster of judges includes a mix of nonmember Indians and non-Indians. All of them are licensed attorneys. Several of them are law professors specializing in Indian law, for example, Angela Riley (UCLA) and Stacy Leeds (Dean at Arizona State). Several more are retired federal judges, for example, Raul Ramirez (ret. E.D. Cal.) and Oliver Wanger (ret. E.D. Cal.). I have heard two cases for Rincon. 44 See Mazzetti v. Kolb, No. AP-0001-23 (Rincon Band Ct. App. 2024), https://perma.cc/JW8Z-MQZN; Donius v. Rincon Band of Luiseño Indians, No. AP-0205-19 (Rincon Band Ct. App. 2020), https://perma.cc/6Z92-R4YU. In those instances, I sat with three different retired federal judges, James Ware (Northern District of California), Deanell Reese Tacha (Tenth Circuit), and Arthur J. Gajarsa (Federal Circuit). The former federal appellate judges had heard numerous Indian law cases as federal judges, 45 E.g., In re U.S., 590 F.3d 1305, 1306 (Fed. Cir. 2009) (Gajarsa, J.); Shoshone Indian Tribe of the Wind River Indian Rsrv. v. United States, 364 F.3d 1339, 1341 (Fed. Cir. 2004) (Gajarsa, J.); Duke v. Absentee Shawnee Tribe of Oklahoma Housing Auth., 199 F.3d 1123, 1124 (10th Cir. 1999) (Tacha, J.); EEOC v. Cherokee Nation, 871 F.2d 937, 939 (10th Cir. 1989) (Tacha, J., dissenting); Larimer v. Konocti Vista Casino Resort, Marina, & RV Park, 814 F.Supp.2d 952, 953 (N.D. Cal. 2011) (Ware, J.). presumably infusing them with some experience with Indian country disputes.

D. Lac du Flambeau Band of Lake Superior Chippewa Indians 46 See Tribal Operations, Lac du Flambeau Tribe, https://perma.cc/6RSV-QSDD (archived May 25, 2025).

Lac du Flambeau is a relatively small, rural tribal nation in northern Wisconsin with a decent-sized reservation and limited resources. The tribal court judges are tribal citizens and non-lawyers. They handle simple, informal cases. The tribe adopted a court rule allowing the appointment of a law-trained attorney to handle complex, commercial litigation. 47 See Lac Du Flambeau Tribe, Tribal Ct. Code §§ 80.103(3)(a)(iii), (b),, https://perma.cc/K3N9-N6B7. In that stead, I have been appointed twice as a pro tem trial judge in two separate commercial cases (one of which is still pending). 48 See Lake of the Torches Econ. Dev. Corp. v. Saybrook Tax Exempt Invs., LLC, No. 13 CV 115 (Lac du Flambeau Tribal Ct. Aug. 27, 2013), https://perma.cc/7NTZ-4Z2N . It is my sense that the Flambeau tribal judges are generally not law-trained. However, the tribal appellate judges are drawn from a pool of judges known as the Wisconsin Tribal Judges Association (WTJA). 49 See Wisconsin Tribal Judges Ass’n, https://perma.cc/85BW-2W8T (archived May 25, 2025). It is my sense that the members of WTJA are a mix of Indians and non-Indians, members and nonmembers, and lawyers and non-lawyers. As far as I can tell, all of them are experienced tribal judges with experience in Indian law. 50 I am extrapolating from the listing of judges that are current or former board members of the association. See About Us, Wisconsin Tribal Judges Ass’n, https://perma.cc/6S83-54X6 (archived May 25, 2025).

II. The Subject Matter Expertise Problem in Federal Judging

Article III federal judges have jurisdiction over Indian law matters involving the interpretation of Indian affairs statutes and regulations and Indian treaties. 51 E.g., Restatement of the Law of American Indians § 58 (“Federal courts have subject-matter jurisdiction over certain causes of action arising under federal common law governing Indian affairs . . . .”). They also have jurisdiction over constitutional challenges to federal agency and legislative actions. 52 E.g., Haaland v. Brackeen, 143 S. Ct. 1609, 1623 (2023) (rejecting constitutional challenge to the Indian Child Welfare Act). The Supreme Court has also asserted authority (without congressional authorization) to assess the jurisdiction of tribal governments and tribal courts over nonmembers (in civil cases) 53 National Farmers Union Ins. Co. v. Crow Tribe of Indians, 471 U.S. 845 (1985). and non-Indians (in criminal cases). 54 Oliphant v. Suquamish Indian Tribe, 435 U.S. 191 (1978). Each year, the federal judiciary decides dozens upon dozens of federal Indian law matters. Typically, the Supreme Court hears at least one Indian law matter and occasionally up to five cases in a given Term. Few Article III judges have any experience in federal Indian law matters until they are assigned an Indian law case. Indian law work is largely not respected in elite legal circles. 55 In my experience as a practitioner and a judge, I have worked with opposing counsel and parties, respectively, that casually denigrate tribal courts, tribal laws, and tribal practice, but I do believe that many attorneys now take Indian law seriously. See Matthew L.M. Fletcher, Professionalism in Tribal Jurisdictions, Mich. B.J., Nov. 2022, at 5-6, 8, https://perma.cc/ZR55-UJV2. It is fair to say that ambitious young lawyers building a career designed to build a strong candidacy for the federal bench would be wasting their time by working extensively with tribal nations or in Indian country. Occasionally, a federal judge who worked for the U.S. Department of Justice or the Office of the Solicitor General might have handled or argued an Indian law case, but that experience would only be a small part of her work before her confirmation as a federal judge. Only a very small handful of federal district court judges are tribal citizens, and most of them are brand-new Biden appointees. 56 They are Sara Hill (N.D. Okla., confirmed 2023, Cherokee Nation); Diane Humetewa (D. Ariz., confirmed 2014, Hopi Tribe); Lauren King (W.D. Wash., confirmed 2021, Muscogee (Creek) Nation); and Sunshine Sykes (C.D. Cal., confirmed 2022, Navajo Nation).

Most of federal Indian law is statutory, with treaty language sprinkled in. Congress dominates Indian law. For most of the history of federal Indian law and policy, the Supreme Court greatly deferred to Congress (and often, the executive branch) in the exercise of its Indian affairs powers. 57 E.g., Lone Wolf v. Hitchcock, 187 U.S. 553, 568 (1903) (assuming that Congress acts in “good faith” toward Indians and tribes). Tribal interests had little or no chance to prevail against the federal government, in part because the federal government had statutory control over tribal attorney contracts (at least until 2000), 58 25 U.S.C. § 476(e), repealed in relevant part by Indian Tribal Economic Development and Contract Encouragement Act of 2000, Pub. L. No. 106-179, § 3, 114 Stat. 46, 47. but also because federal sovereign rights barred relief. 59 E.g., United States v. Mitchell, 445 U.S. 535, 542 (1980) (rejecting an Indian breach of trust claim against the US because a federal statute describing the asset as under federal “trust” did not create trust duties enforceable against the government). Unless Congress enacted a law that tipped the scales toward a tribal or Indian interest, which was unbelievably rare until the 1970s, tribes and Indians almost always lost.

Even now, after a half-century of self-determination policy where the large majority of Indian affairs legislation is designed to benefit tribal interests, tribes know better than to rely on the judiciary. 60 For example, the Court’s recent decision in Oklahoma v. Castro-Huerta, 142 S. Ct. 2486 (2022), held in favor of state criminal jurisdiction in Indian country, even in the absence of congressional authorization, violating the principle dating back to 1832 that state law has “no force” in Indian country. See Worcester v. Georgia, 31 U.S. 515, 561 (1832). Legal scholars long have recognized and demonstrated that the federal judiciary, especially the Supreme Court, has shifted its focus from deferring to Congress in Indian affairs to a focus on stringently limiting tribal powers and authorities. 61 I once referred to this jurisprudence as “canary textualism.” See Matthew L.M. Fletcher, Muskrat Textualism, 116 Nw. U. L. Rev. 963, 980-86 (2022). Tribal advocates have, for the most part, internalized that learning and usually take strategic action designed to prevent Supreme Court review. Why is that?

Federal judges are focused on the U.S. Constitution. The constitutional text says little about individual Indians and tribal nations, despite Indians and tribes being mentioned twice. 62 Const. Art. I, § 8, cl. 3; Const. Amend. XIV, § 2. The Constitution is really about federal and state governmental powers and authorities, a reality that creates enormous structural disadvantages for tribal interests. When a federal judge is tasked with weighing the sovereign interests of state governments against the federal government, the Supremacy Clause tends to require the elevation of federal interests. 63 Const. Art. VI, cl. 2. E.g., Worcester v. Georgia, 31 U.S. 515, 538-39 (1832) (holding federal laws and Indian treaty terms, which are also federal laws, preempt conflicting state criminal laws). When a federal judge is tasked with weighing the sovereign interests of states or the federal government against tribal interests, she looks to a Constitution that offers relatively great detail and support for federal and state interests, but no support whatsoever for tribal interests. 64 E.g., Oklahoma v. Castro-Huerta, 142 S. Ct. 2486, 2501 (2022) (finding no tribal interest affected by state prosecuting non-Indians for crimes in Indian country). If there are substantial tribal interests, it is because Congress has enacted statutes recognizing those interests or because a tribe has treaty rights guaranteeing those interests. 65 E.g., White Mountain Apache Tribe v. Bracker, 448 U.S. 136, 147-49 (1980) (finding tribal and federal interests in federal Indian country timber statutes and regulations). The Court’s turn away from deferring to Congress has come at exactly the wrong time for tribal nations.

Generalist judges presumably possess great advantages. They are brilliant (and politically savvy) lawyers and judges who rose to the peak of the judiciary. They see issues with fresh eyes. They are assisted by insanely brilliant law clerks, some of whom will become judges or prominent appellate advocates later in their careers. In theory, Article III judges are insulated from partisan politics (though at this stage of American democracy only the most naïve observers and ardent defenders of the judiciary accept this). However, there is considerable circumstantial evidence that the Justices lack subject matter expertise in federal Indian Law. Scholars like Michalyn Steele have powerfully demonstrated that the Court has little institutional capacity to choose from policy options in Indian affairs. 66 See Michael Doran, Tribal Sovereignty Preempted, 89 Brook. L. Rev. 53, 108 (2023) (citing Michalyn Steele, Comparative Institutional Competency and Sovereignty in Indian Affairs, 85 U. Colo. L. Rev. 759, 779-815 (2014)). The Supreme Court is not, after all, the Legislature.

Tribal advocates also have long suspected that federal judges’ relative lack of experience in Indian law issues results in bad decisions. By “bad” I do not necessarily mean those decisions that go against tribal interests, but decisions that are seemingly unmoored from the lived experience of Indian people and tribal nations. A “bad” decision does not adequately answer important questions, usually leading to more litigation resulting in more federal court decisions, many of which are also “bad.” A “bad” decision rests upon incorrect or false assumptions, or facts not based in the record below, or unacknowledged biases of authoring judges (or their clerks). A “bad” decision relies on legal theories and “facts” not briefed or alleged by the parties. A “bad” decision, perhaps the worse kind of decision, is a decision that is based on the factual circumstances of a specific tribe or tribes and applies by its terms to all tribal nations, regardless of the other tribes’ circumstances. Much of the acute strategic decision-making by tribal advocates at the Supreme Court is playing a form of defense designed to keep the Justices on point, focusing on the precedents and the statutory text.

Lack of subject matter expertise can also contribute to the problem of tribal essentialism, a huge problem on two levels. First, the Court routinely looks at a non-party tribe’s circumstances and applies those circumstances to the tribe at issue in a given case. Second, the Court takes a decision litigated and framed by the parties to a given case that is (hopefully) molded by the party tribe’s circumstances and applies that holding and reasoning to all tribes.

On the first point, there are numerous examples where the Court or individual judges seem intent on learning facts about one tribe or group of tribes and assuming that those tribe-specific circumstances can be generalized to all tribes.

The majority in Nevada v. Hicks alleged that Indian country was a haven for lawlessness in a case about an innocent tribal citizen subjected to repeated searches of his home for contraband. 67 See Nevada v. Hicks, 533 U.S. 353, 356, 364 (2001) (expressing worry about Indian reservations becoming “an asylum for refugees from justice”) (quoting Fort Leavenworth R. Co v. Lowe, 114 U.S. 525, 533 (1885)). In the same case, Justice Souter wrote a concurring opinion asserting that many tribal courts applied procedures and substantive laws that “outsiders” would find “unusually difficult to sort out.” 68 Id. at 384-385 (Souter, J., concurring). A simple search on Westlaw for court opinions handed down by the tribal court at issue in that case, the Inter-tribal Court of Nevada, showed that the court did not rely on tribal customs and traditions to decide its cases. 69 See Matthew L.M. Fletcher, A Unifying Theory of Tribal Civil Jurisdiction, 46 Ariz. St. L.J. 779, 798-99 (2014). Years later, Justice Breyer asked the advocate for the tribe in Dollar General v. Mississippi Choctaw what scholarly sources he could turn to for information about tribal courts, 70 Oral Argument at 40-41, Dollar General Corp. v. Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians, 579 U.S. 545 (2016) (No. 13-1496), 2015 WL 9919326. possibly looking for developments in the legal scholarship about tribal courts. No judge asked or appeared to care to learn anything about the Mississippi Choctaw courts (which are very impressive, by the way). 71 See Supreme Court Decisions, Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians, https://perma.cc/8D3R-6KEM (archived May 25, 2025). The tribal appellate court opinion leading to the Dollar General decision, Doe v. Dollar General Corp., No. CV-02-05 (Mississippi Choctaw S. Ct. 2005), https://perma.cc/WQN4-6Y8U, was authored by Frank Pommersheim, the preeminent Indian law professor and tribal judge in the country.

The Court in City of Sherrill v. Oneida Indian Nation adopted a theory allowing it to reject a tribal tax immunity that no party had briefed or argued. 72 See 544 U.S. 197, 223-224 (2005) (Stevens, J., dissenting). The theory requires extensive factual development that no party would have known to pursue prior to the adoption of the theory on the scope of tribal disruption of “justifiable” non-Indian expectations. 73 Id. at 215-216. The Court invented, adopted, and applied this theory to rule against the tribe in the absence of the development of a factual record. Several Second Circuit opinions following the Sherrill reasoning summarily dismissed numerous claims without allowing the tribes to develop a factual record and even without holding a hearing. 74 E.g., Oneida Indian Nation of New York v. County of Oneida, 617 F.3d 114, 117-118, 127 (2d Cir. 2010) (dismissing tribal land claims under reasoning of Sherrill). Justice Ginsburg, the majority opinion’s author, later said the decision was her greatest regret. 75 See Ruth Bader Ginsburg Wants Trump to Appoint a Native American Woman to the Supreme Court, Buffalo Chron.(May 5, 2020), https://perma.cc/4B2S-DUAP.

On the second point, there are fewer examples, but the most important one is a big one, Oliphant v. Suquamish Indian Tribe. 76 435 U.S. 191 (1978). Justice Rehnquist’s opinion in Oliphant stripped tribes of criminal jurisdiction over non-Indians by judicial fiat. 77 Id. at 195. The opinion focused extensively on the history of the nineteenth-century tribal courts of the Five Tribes of Oklahoma, but only from the point of view of federal bureaucrats and federal legislators. 78 Id. at 196-200. The Oliphant case was about the courts of the Suquamish Tribe of Washington, which were and are radically different from the Oklahoma tribal courts in terms of process and culture. Oliphant’s legacy is a deadly one, with Indian country crimes rates by non-Indians rising steadily since the decision. Even that decision’s shoddy jurisprudence still shows up from time to time. Ninth Circuit Judge Bumatay recently wrote that almost all tribal judges (and juries) are tribal citizens in a dissent in Lexington Insurance Co. v. Smith, citing to Oliphant. 79 117 F.4th 1106, 1115 (9th Cir. 2024) (Bumatay, J., dissenting from denial of en banc petition). Ironically, Smith actually did involve the Suquamish Tribe as well, though the Suquamish Tribal Court has changed dramatically since 1978. 80 Compare Oliphant v. Suquamish Indian Tribe, 435 U.S. 191, 193-94 (1978) (referencing the “provisional” tribal court that likely had no law-trained judges), with Lexington Ins. Co. v. Smith, 138 Harv. L. Rev. 1689, 1694 (2025) (describing the modern-era Suquamish tribal court). Judge Bumatay’s allegation is simply and outrageously false; the Suquamish tribal appellate panel consisted of three non-Indian, nonmember judges, all of whom have extensive tribal court experience. 81 See Lexington Ins. Co. v. Smith, 138 Harv. L. Rev. 1689, 1694 (2025); Suquamish Indian Tribe v. Lexington Insurance Co., No. 200601-C (Suquamish Tribal Ct. App. Oct. 7, 2021), https://perma.cc/U92X-VH7G (opinion signed by three law-trained judges, all of whom are non-Indians).

Finally, several important Supreme Court decisions have been quickly or gradually overruled by Congress in the last few decades. The Court’s decision in Duro v. Reina rejecting tribal criminal jurisdiction over nonmember Indians 82 495 U.S. 676, 679 (1990). was overruled within a year. 83 Act of Nov. 5, 1990, Pub. L. No. 101–511, § 8077(b)-(c), 104 Stat. 1856, 1892-1893 (codified as amended at 25 U.S.C. § 1301(2)). A few years later, Congress overruled the Court’s decision in Match-E-Be-Nash-She-Wish Band of Pottawatomi Indians v. Patchak. 84 567 U.S. 209 (2012); Gun Lake Trust Land Reaffirmation Act, Pub. L. No. 113-179, 128 Stat. 1913. Even the Court’s paradigm-shifting decision stripping tribes of the power to prosecute non-Indians was chipped away by Congress in partial “fixes” in 2013 and 2022, 85 25 U.S.C. §§ 1302(b)-(d), 1304. although the original decision remains effective in most instances. Congress has not enacted any laws reversing the Court’s decisions favoring tribal interests.

Even in the absence of congressional reversal, the Court’s failure to understand the facts on the ground in Indian country often renders the Court’s confident decisions fundamentally irrelevant within a few years. In Carcieri v. Salazar, the Court held that tribes “not under federal jurisdiction” in 1934 cannot benefit from the Interior Secretary’s power to acquire land into trust for tribal beneficiaries. 86 555 U.S. 379, 394-96 (2009).  In that decision, the Court foreclosed the Narragansett Tribe and the Department of the Interior from the opportunity to demonstrate that the tribe could meet the new interpretation articulated by the Court. 87 Id. at 395-96. Every tribe since that decision has been able to meet the “under federal jurisdiction” standard, once they took advantage of the opportunity to develop the factual record required to comply with the Carcieri decision; 88 E.g., Littlefield v. U.S. Dep’t of the Interior, 85 F.4th 635, 640 (1st Cir. 2023); Confederated Tribes of Grand Ronde Community of Oregon v. Jewell, 830 F.3d 552, 556 (D.C. Cir. 2016). every tribe, that is, except the Narragansett Tribe, which could have easily met the test had they not been foreclosed from even trying to do so by the Carcieri opinion.

There is a potential way forward that limits the judiciary’s power to second-guess Congress or tribal nations. The default interpretive rules of federal Indian law–the so-called Indian canons of construction of Indian treaties and Indian affairs statutes and the clear expression rules—elevate congressional and tribal policy prerogatives over uneducated judicial policy choices. 89 See generally Matthew LM. Fletcher, Federal Indian Law as Method, 95 U. Colo. L Rev. 375, 377-81 (2024). These default rules derive from the foundational principle that the federal-tribal relationship is based on the duty of protection owed by the United States to tribal nations. The Court’s fidelity to these interpretative rules is inconsistent at best. These canons might appear to the Court to be “substantive canons,” interpretative tools now disfavored by a textualist Roberts Court. 90 See Evan D. Bernick, Are the Indian Canons Illegitimate? A Textualist- Originalist Answer for Justice Alito, Originalism Blog (Mar. 28, 2022), https://originalismblog.typepad.com/the-originalism-blog/2022/03 (defending the canons as “second-best originalism”).

Labeling the Supreme Court’s Indian law jurisprudence as “judicial supremacy” is a common pastime of Indian law scholars, 91 E.g., Philip P. Frickey, (Native) American Exceptionalism in Federal Public Law, 119 Harv. L. Rev. 431, 460-65 (2005); Alex Tallchief Skibine, Formalism and Judicial Supremacy in Federal Indian Law, 32 Am. Ind. L. Rev. 391 (2008). but given the Court’s arrogation of power to itself, the epithet is correct.

III. Toward Specialized Judges

There is a solid case to be made for requiring specialization for Article III judges hearing Indian law cases.

I rely heavily on former federal judge Diane Wood’s essay supporting generalist judges, 92 Diane P. Wood, Generalist Judges in a Specialized World, 50 SMU L. Rev. 1755 (1997). though I imagine she would disagree with my overall conclusion. Judge Wood helpfully identified the current specialization within Article III courts. There is the Federal Circuit, which hears appeals on intellectual property matters and money damages claims against the United States, certainly an odd grouping. There is the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court and the Court of International Trade. There are also specialized Article I courts, including bankruptcy courts and adjudicative bodies within federal agencies. Within the Department of the Interior, there already is the Interior Board of Indian Appeals, which has a limited, discrete jurisdiction.

The notion of a specialized Indian affairs court is not a new idea. Felix Cohen’s original draft of the bill that would become the Indian Reorganization Act of 1934 proposed a separate federal court on Indian affairs. 93 See Lawrence C. Kelly, The Indian Reorganization Act: The Dream and the Reality, 44 Pac. Hist. Rev. 291, 295-96 (1975). In recent years, scholars have attempted to modernize and adapt similar proposals. 94 E.g., Michael C. Blumm & Michael Cadigan, The Indian Court of Appeals: A Modest Proposal to Eliminate Supreme Court Jurisdiction over Indian Cases, 46 Ark. L. Rev 203 (1993) (proposing to eliminate Supreme Court review of “Indian cases”); Eugene R. Fidell, Competing Visions of Appellate Justice for Indian Country: A United States Court of Indian Appeals or an American Indian Supreme Court, 40 Am. Indian L. Rev. 233 (2015-2016) (proposing a national, intertribal court); Gregory D. Smith & Bailee L. Plemmons, The Court of Indian Appeals: Americas Forgotten Federal Appellate Court , 44 Am. Indian L. Rev. 211, 214 (2019-2020) (proposing a federal Court of Indian Appeals). None of these proposals, obviously, became law.

Judge Wood partly hinged her defense of generalist judges by emphasizing the rule of Chevron deference (at least in relation to hearing appeals from Article I courts). 95 See Wood, supra note 90, at 1765-66. Judge Wood might not have, but I would expand that analysis to any appeal from a specialized federal agency decision such as the Environmental Protection Agency or the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. A generalist federal court judge deferring to the specialized expertise of the agency was not just the law, but a saving grace for generalized judges who do not know much about PFAS or low-level radioactive waste half-lives.

But Loper Bright Enterprises v. Raimondo killed Chevron deference, leaving us with Skidmore deference. 96 See 144 S. Ct. 2244, 2262 (2024). Now, federal agencies with specialized expertise cannot expect their evidence-based decisions to prevail in court where an opposing party with opposing evidence is able to persuade a generalized judge that its evidence is better. But at least in cases of science-based decision-making, one hopes the judiciary will be reasonably effective at assessing evidence that is peer-reviewed.

Indian affairs is different. There are 574 federally recognized Indian tribes in the United States. 97 Indian Entities Recognized by and Eligible to Receive Services from the United States Bureau of Indian Affairs, 89 Fed. Reg. 944 (Jan. 8, 2024). The largest tribal nation, the Navajo Nation, has 400,000 members and a land base the size of Ireland or West Virginia. 98 Simon Romero, Navajo Nation Becomes Largest Tribe in U.S. After Pandemic Enrollment Surge, N.Y. Times (May 21, 2021), https://perma.cc/4A87-8C2Z. The Muscogee Nation has more than 100,000 members and a very large land base, too, but the tribe and its citizens own only a small portion of that land base. 99 .The Muscogee Nation; https://perma.cc/3EQU-FBTE. Some tribes are resource-rich, most others are close to broke. Scholars study some tribes more than others, and some tribes reveal more information about themselves than others. Every tribe is different.

The Supreme Court almost always essentializes all tribes as being the same. The body of evidence assessed by this generalist court is provided only by parties that have some stake in the outcome, often evidence provided by amici curiae that was not introduced into the record below. This is what a generalist judge does. They learn by reading. And a generalist judge has little background or expertise to assess the evidence presented to them. A decision affecting one tribe tends to affect all tribes, no matter the varying conditions on the ground.

Worse, this Court frequently rejects the both the specific and general policy choices made by Congress. The default interpretative rules of federal Indian law are supposed to guide the judiciary in its deference to Congress, but outside of treaty rights cases, the Court rarely takes these interpretive rules seriously.

The end of Chevron deference, the rise of the major questions doctrine, and the skepticism toward “substantive” interpretive canons further ensures that the Court will run Indian affairs, not Congress.

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There are hundreds of specialized Indian law judges. For the most part, they work as tribal judges. There are also the Interior Board of Indian Appeals judges and a small handful of Article III federal judges (a few of them are tribal citizens) who actually had a significant Indian law practice before hitting the bench.

I suggest Congress establish a pool of Article III judges who are experts in federal Indian law and are certified by (perhaps) the Senate Judiciary and Indian Affairs Committees. These judges must show extensive practice experience in federal Indian law and (hopefully) American Indian tribal law, either as an advocate or a judge. From the current body of Article III judges, perhaps only a very small handful qualify. Of course, this must necessitate confirmation of more Article III judges to fill this pool. There are private attorneys who handle complex commercial transactions involving tribes, state, federal, and tribal lawyers with extensive experience. The editorial boards of Cohen’s Handbook on Federal Indian Law, the Conference of Western Attorneys General’s American Indian Law Deskbook, and the (former) advisers to the American Law Institute’s Restatement of the Law of American Indians are full of subject matter experts. One hopes it would even diversify the federal judiciary further, if nothing else, in terms of subject matter expertise. Whenever a federal district court case is filed that involves a tribal or Indian party and involves an Indian affairs-based legal question, the parties would choose from the pool of available judges. If the parties are unlikely to agree, arbitration-style judicial selection—where the parties each select one judge and those two select the third—could be used. On appeal, the parties would choose from the pool to select three judges. This is already radical, but I would go further and continue to use the pool to allow the parties to select Justices to hear Supreme Court-level appeals.

All of this is completely viable under the US Constitution already. Congress can create lower courts as it sees fit. In 1946, Congress created the Indian Claims Commission, 100 Act of August 13, 1946, ch. 959, 60 Stat. 1049. eventually moving those cases into the federal claims court in 1976. 101 Act of Oct. 8, 1976, Pub. L. No. 94-465, 90 Stat. 1990. As for the Supreme Court, there is precious little text that controls on creating a separate pool of Article III judges to hear Supreme Court cases in a given subject area like Indian law. 102 See Const. Art. III, § 1 (noting that there must exist a “supreme” court but not detailing the number of justices). There have been between five and ten Supreme Court justices—the number is set by Congress (though there must be one Chief Justice). 103 See FAQs-General Information, Supreme Court of the United States, https://perma.cc/HP27-7HE8 (archived May 25, 2025). It takes the political will of Congress and five votes on the Supreme Court to confirm a statute’s constitutionality.

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I have personally served on an arbitration panel to address a conflict over a Class III Indian gaming compact between a tribe and a state. The compact required each party to select an arbitrator. As you can imagine, the tribe selected me, an Indian law expert. The state selected an arbitrator with extensive arbitration experience but relatively little Indian law experience. Between us two arbitrators, we were to select a third arbitrator. We asked the tribe and the state, if they agreed, to select a pool of arbitrators for us to choose from. We were happy to see a select list of potential arbitrators. We selected the one who happened to be the leading scholar on Indian gaming in the nation. That person ultimately wrote the opinion for the arbitral board. It was brilliantly done.

I already imagine how this would work in the real world. A tribe and a state are litigating in federal court. On appeal, the tribe chooses Allie Maldonado, who currently sits on the Michigan Court of Appeals. Judge Maldonado is a citizen of the Little Traverse Bay Bands of Odawa Indians (LTBB), former LTBB in-house counsel, and former LTBB Chief Judge. 104 Fourth District Judges: Court of Appeals; Michigan Courts; https://www.courts.michigan.gov/courts/court-of-appeals/judges/current-judges/fourth-district-judges/. The state chooses Michael Gadola, current Chief Judge of the Michigan Court of Appeals. Chief Judge Gadola formerly served as governor’s counsel for the State of Michigan and assisted in the negotiation of the 1993 Michigan tribal-state gaming compacts. 105 Id. They meet and select a third judge, John Wernet, former governor’s counsel (same office as Gadola) and former in-house counsel for the Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians. 106 Kate Fort, Big Michigan News: John Wernet to Be Sault Tribes General Counsel, Turtle Talk (Jun. 2, 2011) https://perma.cc/L858-NU96. All three have substantial experience and knowledge about Indian law. All three have substantial experience and knowledge about the state’s interests. At least two of them have substantial experience and know about tribal interests. Whichever party prevails, this appellate court can be expected to deliver a knowledgeable and useful opinion, far more likely to serve as a useful guide to the parties going forward and as compelling and persuasive precedent.

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I have come to expect that when a judge openly muses that Indian law is difficult or confusing, 107 E.g., Haaland v. Brackeen, 143 S. Ct. 1609, 361 (2023) (Thomas, J., dissenting) (lamenting “the confusion that Kagama and its progeny have engendered”); United States v. Lara, 541 U.S. 193, 214 (2004) (Thomas, J., concurring in the judgment). or in Justice Thomas’ unfortunate turn of phrase, “schizophrenic,” 108 Lara, 541 U.S. at 219 (Thomas, J., concurring in the judgment) (“Federal Indian policy is, to say the least, schizophrenic.”). it means that judge does not like the outcome as a policy matter or the outcome does not comport with that judge’s political commitments. It’s time to relieve those frustrated, confused judges of the burden of deciding Indian law cases.

* Harry Burns Hutchins Collegiate Professor of Law and Professor of America Culture, University of Michigan. Citizen, Grand Traverse Band of Ottawa and Chippewa Indians. Miigwetch to Wenona Singel, Annalisa Kingsbury Lee, Angela Riley, and Jane Schacter.